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358 points by amai 44 days ago | hide | past | favorite | 143 comments
| pugworthy 44 days ago | next [–]
I guess yea I'm impressed, but to me the whole point of Markdown is that it's dirt simple. You can edit it and use it without any kind of GUI and have a pretty good idea what you are going to get. You can create it in VIM in a terminal, and trust what you did is going to look fine. Heck you can just look at the raw .md file and read it just fine.But then you start adding to it. Soon you find yourself looking up all the odd new commands. And wishing for a WYSIWYG editor because you can't remember the commands or not sure what it will look like without the live render.It's a bit like saying, "Hey this QWERTY keyboard is nice, but what if it had keys for all the Cyrillic, Devanagari, Chinese, and Arabic characters too? Wouldn't that be great?" Well, yea. But you just put the hunt back in hunt and peck.
| looneysquash 43 days ago | parent | next [–]
To me, one of the big features of markdown is it's half WYSIWYG.By that I mean, the basics reuse the way we faked formatting to do real formatting. The input is (usually) perfectly readable on its own.Even if you don't know (or remember) how to author a markdown file, you can probably still read it just fine. The tables still look like tables. The paragraphs are just paragraphs.I do still have to look up how to do stuff in markdown sometimes. And that's fine. Your active vocabulary is always smaller than your passive one.So the way I judge this is by how readable the input is.I'm not sure how well they succeeded at that. A lot of what they show doesn't really add to or take away from that.But I didn't see any examples of them formatting math. I only rarely use LaTex. And when I do, it's not because I need a "paged" mode or need to include an author. It's because I need to format something markdown can't do, and that's usually a math equation.So I am curious how that ends up looking.
| iamgioh 43 days ago | root | parent | next [–]
That’s exactly why I built Quarkdown. Flat learning curve for basic formatting, powerful customizations for the rest. Spot on!
| rendaw 43 days ago | root | parent | next [–]
I think that's an interesting idea, but you hit the landing page and there's loads of syntax thrown in your face and you're like, man, I need to learn a lot.But I think this kind of brings up another problem, which is that you can choose not to use stuff if you're writing, but if you're reading other people's docs or editing them, then you need to know all the syntax they use. Most OSS projects with markdown docs today, anyone can open an MR to improve them.
| 2001zhaozhao 44 days ago | parent | prev | next [–]
That's a good argument. However, Quarkdown is still a strict upgrade over typing latex directly or whatever, and you get more predictable results and better compatibility with LLM-assisted editing than with a GUI editor like Word.
| SOLAR_FIELDS 43 days ago | root | parent | next [–]
Who types latex directly anymore these days?
| kwsp 43 days ago | root | parent | next [–]
I just typed my entire PhD thesis in latex earlier this year
| SOLAR_FIELDS 42 days ago | root | parent | next [–]
Why did you not have an LLM typeset it for you in 1% of the time that it took for you to type all of it out by hand? Did you ride a horse to university instead of taking your car as well?
| maleldil 42 days ago | root | parent | next [–]
Are you suggesting PhD candidates have AI write their theses? Or just writing LaTeX commands while the students write the core text? Because if it's the latter, LaTeX usually isn't the bottleneck.
| SOLAR_FIELDS 41 days ago | root | parent | next [–]
No, I am not suggesting PhD candidates have AI write their theses. The original poster implied that they typed latex code for their thesis out by hand, to which I responded that it seemed silly to do so, silly in a similar way that taking a horse drawn carriage would be vs using a car.
| antiframe 39 days ago | root | parent | next [–]
So, do they write their formulas like S a b f(x)dx in their hand-written source text, but then get the LLM to convert that to \int_{a}^{b}f(x)dx? Invent their own "markup" to indicate S a b is the integral from a to b? They might as well learn \int and just use that.I write LaTeX by hand all the time whenever I need to put any math in my notes, and depending on your use-case or field, you learn the LaTeX for that which you use often and it's faster than trying to use most tools.
| giwook 44 days ago | parent | prev | next [–]
Going to work on a Quarkdown with even more Superpowers and a seamless UI/UX so you don't need to remember all the odd new commands.I shall call it Microsoft Word.
| setopt 44 days ago | root | parent | next [–]
Since it’s an upgrade of markdown, you should have called it "markup".
| dtj1123 44 days ago | root | parent | next [–]
This sounds to me like it might benefit from some sort of "hypertext" functionality to allow for easy linking of documents
| solid_fuel 43 days ago | root | parent | next [–]
Now you're cooking with gas. Maybe it could be some sort of semantic markup language so we can separate and annotate things like titles, headers, links, and all of that stuff.
| marcus_holmes 43 days ago | root | parent | prev | next [–]
I would like to include some dynamic content in my documents. Could we include some kind of simple scripting language?Maybe call it something like that really popular, Java language? But of course, have it share no concepts with Java, because that would be too straightforward.
| giwook 43 days ago | root | parent | prev | next [–]
This is very interesting. I imagine the links of these documents to each other could be visualized as a web of some sort.
| mrspuratic 43 days ago | root | parent | prev | next [–]
"updoc" is still my favourite joke name. A long time ago (predating E lang's updoc afaict) I wrote a toy markup for semi-technical docs, named so with the specific intention of dropping it casually into conversation. Still funny :D
| tclancy 43 days ago | root | parent | prev | next [–]
Price accordingly.
| pugworthy 44 days ago | root | parent | prev | next [–]
See, that's the Markdown-Word spiral i was talking about...
| iamgioh 43 days ago | root | parent | prev | next [–]
I chuckled
| franciscop 43 days ago | parent | prev | next [–]
As I'm writing a small markdown renderer, I find it difficult to even find a name for it, let alone get people to use it once it's ready. So I guess the ol' Markdown is too standard for a "plain markdown" editor to stand out today. Only tools that are polished and dare-I-say full of features beyond normal markdown can stand out from normal Markdown editors to make it into the front page of HN. Sort of natural selection I guess.
| iamgioh 43 days ago | root | parent | next [–]
That’s truly one of the best compliments I’ve ever received along my dev journey. Thank you.
| franciscop 43 days ago | root | parent | next [–]
I was just reflecting on what I saw/thought! But sure, take it as a compliment, the website and branding are amazing, I'm (positively) jealous of how good they reflect on the product, congrats.
| iamgioh 43 days ago | root | parent | next [–]
I posted it on my X, hope you don’t mind!
| chrisweekly 43 days ago | parent | prev | next [–]
FWIW, Obsidian.md makes a fantastic WYSIWYG editor for basic markdown.
| amai 44 days ago | prev | next [–]
I would really like to see a comparison of all these tools/markup languages:- MyST- Pandoc- Quarkdown- Quarto- TypstQuarto and pandoc both use Pandoc Markdown (and so does https://www.zettlr.com/). But Quarkdown and Typst offer programmable markup languages like LaTeX (or HTML + Javascript). It seems the winner for the title official LaTeX successor is still not decided.
| revolvingthrow 44 days ago | parent | next [–]
I used (and will continue to use) most of those. Quick rules of thumb:- markdown is .txt with just a tiny bit of syntactic sugar/syntax highlighting, and you can export it to pdf or html- quarto is markdown-but-I-want-to-execute-code-blocks-inside- typst is latex but modern, with 90% less cruft and 10% less functionality (academia, hating everything modern, will also hate you if you use typst)- pandoc is how you export to pdf/html/whateverBy and large, it’s obvious which tool is needed when. There’s of course more, like asciidoc, but I struggle to think what isn’t being covered by the markdown/quarto/typst combo. Some wysiwyg editor maybe?
| nextaccountic 43 days ago | root | parent | next [–]
I don't care about missing features, but I just want a way to export to latex using typst.It's okay if this is not the day to day tool used to render, but this should be possible. It's just a compiler between two languages, and latex happens to be Turing complete (and can display arbitrary things to a PDF), so it's 100% in the "not impossible" categoryWith such a tool nobody has to know if you use typst personally. Just like, say, nobody has to know you use jj rather than git
| lametti 42 days ago | root | parent | next [–]
I've submitted to a scientific journal using "typst to tex" [0].It's definitely not perfect but it was good enough. And there is pandoc too.[0]: https://codeberg.org/TheZoq2/ttt
| maleldil 42 days ago | root | parent | prev | next [–]
Can't pandoc do it?
| sbinnee 43 days ago | root | parent | prev | next [–]
(academia, hating everything modern, will also hate you if you use typst)I chuckled. I'd love to try out typst when the time comes. But for writing a journal paper, it's still going to be latex.
| dgacmu 43 days ago | root | parent | next [–]
I've been testing it out by using it to create the quizzes for a course I'm teaching this semester. My conclusion is that it's well worth finding a way to try it out. Drastically reduces the amount of boilerplate.(I haven't yet tried to write a full paper in it.)
| 0x3444ac53 44 days ago | root | parent | prev | next [–]
I'm sorry, what exactly is the issue with typst?
| kitchi 44 days ago | root | parent | next [–]
No issues per se, but academic publishing has deep roots in the latex ecosystem. So templates from publishers are often not available in typst, or the publisher insists on a latex formatted file.Often supervisors/professors etc will also resist using typst because of the cognitive overhead on their already oversubscribed time. Typst has about 40 years of history to overcome and that will take a long time to do.
| leephillips 44 days ago | root | parent | next [–]
Everything you say is true, although Typst is making slow headway¹.Also, it’s possible, using some Pandoc magic², to enjoy aspects of Typst markup while generating a LaTeX document.1 https://lwn.net/Articles/1037577/2 https://lee-phillips.org/typstfilters/
| CJefferson 43 days ago | root | parent | prev | next [–]
They made a new format with basically no accessibility. We finally got latex usable by blind people with acceptable html output, I’m not moving to something worse.
| xigoi 43 days ago | root | parent | next [–]
In what ways is HTML produced by transpiling LaTeX more accessible that HTML produced by Typst?
| CJefferson 43 days ago | root | parent | next [–]
The HTML generated by LaTeX is currently very good (you can read basically every paper on arXiV in HTML). The html generated by Typst just.. doesn't really work currently. I checked a few weeks ago, tables didn't output sensibly. Looking at the docs their plan doesn't seem to be to aim for total coverage in general.
| leephillips 43 days ago | root | parent | next [–]
By “The HTML generated by LaTeX” do you mean by latexml (the tool used, I think, by arxiv) or something else?
| nzoschke 44 days ago | parent | prev | next [–]
Consider djot for the comparison list too.It seems like a well designed and thorough superset of markdown.https://djot.net/
| angiolillo 42 days ago | root | parent | next [–]
It is an interesting project. I would love to see markdown improved and I agree with many of the simplifications they've made.However I'm skeptical that any format that compromises the editing experience will gain traction with users. For example, djot requires a blank line before nested lists (at least in the default mode) which requires writing lists in a way that I've never seen anyone write in an email because it groups nested items incorrectly in the raw text.
| netbioserror 44 days ago | parent | prev | next [–]
I've produced a staggering variety of documents with Typst. Books, booklets, slides, cards, documentation, everything. In most cases I only need a minimum of custom styles and behaviors at the top, and very occasionally a whole styling module. Blows the rest of these tools out of the water full stop.
| thangalin 44 days ago | parent | prev | next [–]
a comparison of all these tools/markup languagesIt can take a long time to draft such comparisons; I crafted one for my own Markdown editor, which uses ConTeXt instead of LaTeX:https://keenwrite.com/blog/2025/09/08/feature-matrix/Feel free to use it as a starting point for your own research.
| amai 42 days ago | root | parent | next [–]
oh, wow. That must have been a lot of work.
| ahofmann 44 days ago | parent | prev | next [–]
You mean like this? https://github.com/iamgio/quarkdown#comparison
| flexagoon 44 days ago | root | parent | next [–]
That doesn't include Quarto, which seems like the closest alternative
| iamgioh 44 days ago | root | parent | next [–]
I'm not familiar with Quarto, feel free to update the table in a PR
| t-kalinowski 44 days ago | root | parent | next [–]
Memories are failable :) Here is the PR you merged June of last year, changing the file extension from .qmd to .qd after a discussion about Quarto: https://github.com/iamgio/quarkdown/pull/90
| iamgioh 44 days ago | root | parent | next [–]
Of course, just saying I'm not familiar with the language itself and its capabilities! :)
| zmmmmm 43 days ago | parent | prev | next [–]
Pandoc lives in a different tier because it gives you arbitrary filters so you can do any transformation you want on the intermediate JSON format. And it converts anything to and from that JSON format. So I prefer Pandoc based systems because anything the tool doesn't do that you want is probably implementable with a simple inline filter.
| leephillips 43 days ago | root | parent | next [–]
I agree with your preference, also largely because of filters. But note that the intermediate format is Pandoc’s internal abstract syntax tree, not JSON (https://lwn.net/Articles/1064692/).The older filter mechanism acted on a JSON serialization of the AST, but the current recommendation is to use Lua filters that work with the internal AST directly.
| BrandonS113 43 days ago | parent | prev | next [–]
I really wanted to like Typst. No more latex would be fantastic. Decided to use it for a project, and had to give up and return to latex, just too many corner cases. Both things its missing from latex, and lack of Pandoc convertibility. Really hope it gets the last 10%
| mr_mitm 43 days ago | parent | prev | next [–]
I don't think Typst fits in this list. They never claim to be some sort of markdown or have any overlap with it, and their core product is the compiler, not the language. Just because they added some syntactic sugar that sometimes somewhat resembles markdown doesn't make it a competitor.
| conorbergin 43 days ago | root | parent | next [–]
That "syntactic sugar" encompasses the entire value proposition of markdown, there's nothing stopping you using Typst to author blog posts or take notes, they even have HTML export.
| dleeftink 44 days ago | parent | prev | next [–]
- paged.js[0] heeds the slow crawl towards the CSS paged media module, eventually allowing some truly great page-setting DX out-of-the box which it currently polyfills.[0]: https://pagedjs.org
| conception 43 days ago | parent | prev | next [–]
Asciidoc was the sweet spot of features and readability for me. Really wish it had more tooling.
| smartmic 44 days ago | parent | prev | next [–]
I am currently enjoying WYSIWYG with GNU TeXmacs for long-form or scientific text editing. Both, the concept and the tool, are amazingly capable and a breath of fresh air after all the LaTex, Markdown, Org s …
| leephillips 44 days ago | root | parent | next [–]
Almost nobody uses TeXmacs it because those who might be interested need LaTeX and its packages. This is not LaTeX. (In the future these authors might all be using Typst, but not this thing.)
| vova_hn2 44 days ago | parent | prev | next [–]
Yeah, I would really like if people who introduce a new project to an already very crowded space would start the introduction with "Why MyCoolProject instead of X?" section.
| amai 44 days ago | parent | prev | next [–]
Thanks. The list also includes https://mdxjs.com/, which I have never heard of.
| evanb 44 days ago | prev | next [–]
By the Standard Model of Physics Software you can edit Quarkdown in Atom to get Quarkup and change your Neutron Mail to Proton Mail, but it only works if you type with your left hand and create an Electron app and an anti-Neutrinos AI blogpost.
| high_priest 42 days ago | parent | next [–]
This is why humans are better (for now) than AI.
| iamgioh 43 days ago | parent | prev | next [–]
love this
| incognito124 44 days ago | parent | prev | next [–]
Pure art
| iamgioh 44 days ago | prev | next [–]
Quarkdown author and project lead here. I started Quarkdown as a uni research project and couldn't imagine what it would end up being 2 years later. Thanks for engaging! I'll try and respond to your comments.
| maxloh 44 days ago | parent | next [–]
Would you consider "fixing" the bold syntax on v3?I have always believed that instead of bold and italic, it should be bold and italic.That extra asterisk is a poor design decision in markdown. It really makes it inconvenient to edit Markdown on a phone or tablet.
| hnlmorg 43 days ago | root | parent | next [–]
It always bugs me that underscore is the syntax for italics rather than underline.I’m sure back in the old days of READMEs, long before markdown was a thing, the conventions were this:
/italics/
underline
bold
| wahern 43 days ago | root | parent | next [–]
RFC 1855, Netiquette Guidelines[1], specifies underscore for underlining. However, it says asterisks are for emphasis, not bold, per se. They just happened to (often?) display as bold because italics in terminals weren't a common thing. For the same reason, using /'s for italics didn't make much sense except maybe in word processors. I also suspect underscore become conflated with asterisk because some people preferred using the former for emphasis--people weren't usually trying to adhere to professional styling guides, and some people may have preferred underlining to impart emphasis, or just got into the habit without thinking about it.I don't know how well RFC 1855 reflected common practice, though. It might be worthwhile to check the rendering code in clients like tin and mutt.[1] https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/rfc1855
| oneeyedpigeon 43 days ago | root | parent | prev | next [–]
Since this seems to boil down to personal choice, has anyone considered a customisable alternative? Like a frontmatter that declares which character is bold, which is italic. You could easily convert between them according to local preference, much like tabs/spaces.
| Cadwhisker 43 days ago | root | parent | prev | next [–]
My /usr/bin/ folder wants to know which bit gets italicised :)
| oneeyedpigeon 43 days ago | root | parent | next [–]
I know this is a throwaway joke, but I was interested anyway...According to my own local Markdown formatters, the answer would be both "usr" and "bin", with the surrounding slashes removed, but the internal slash remaining. In other words:usr/bin(but underlined instead of italic!)Of course, this problem is nothing new since a filename might easily be named _my_file_.
| antiframe 39 days ago | root | parent | prev | next [–]
You put in in ~code~ or =verbatim= markup, thusly: =/usr/bin/=
| hnlmorg 43 days ago | root | parent | prev | next [–]
None because it would be surrounded by backticks.But also, this convention predated rendering text/plain as text/html
| xigoi 43 days ago | root | parent | prev | next [–]
Same as in my_snake_case_name :)
| bjoli 43 days ago | root | parent | prev | next [–]
Org mode uses / as well.
| iamgioh 43 days ago | root | parent | prev | next [–]
Not planned, CommonMark compliance is a strong trait of Quarkdown's identity
| ASalazarMX 44 days ago | parent | prev | next [–]
It strikes me as odd to add functions to a text format, given that even in GUI documents macros are usually avoided. Was Quarkdown designed for complex and repetitive documents?Thank you for volunteering to field questions.
| iamgioh 43 days ago | root | parent | next [–]
Quarkdown was designed for control. Simple Markdown to define content, functions (LaTeX-style, but not macros!) for a declarative approach to document format and styling.Scripting came out naturally, so why not. Since v2 QD comes with a permission system that makes things safer.
| koliber 43 days ago | root | parent | next [–]
Is it like CSS for HTML?
| drfloyd51 43 days ago | root | parent | prev | next [–]
why not?I wonder.> Since v2 QD comes with a permission system that makes things safer.That’s why not.You got your JavaScript in my HTML.Seriously though… it might be a useful feature. Or it could kill your product’s focus. Sincerely, good luck.
| tasuki 44 days ago | parent | prev | next [–]
I read https://iamgio.eu/2025-12-10-accidentally-in-silicon-valley/ and it appears it worked out well – I'm happy for you!
| iamgioh 43 days ago | root | parent | next [–]
Thank you! This project is giving me so much fulfillment
| noelwelsh 44 days ago | prev | next [–]
On a quick read of the docs I'm a bit worried Quarkdown doesn't have the right evaluation model for the job. Text layout typically iterates to a fixed point, because adjusting the layout of one part of the document can throw out layout at another part, require another layout pass and so on. Typst has the concept of context[1] for this. I didn't see anything in Quarkdown that seemed similar, though perhaps I missed it.I switched from pandoc / md / LaTex to Typst for my book[2], and have been very happy with it. Programming in a modern language is nice, and Typst is much faster than pandoc + LaTex.[1]: https://typst.app/docs/reference/context/[2]: https://functionalprogrammingstrategies.com/
| bloppe 43 days ago | prev | next [–]
My quick take: this is basically just Markdown with LaTeX-style macros, except they're called functions, presumably because at least 1 of them has side effects (the one that defines new functions). I appreciate the syntactic purity of "everything is a function", but the casual integration of structure (html) and styling (css) smells a bit off, but I suppose that line was already blurry anyway.This is cool. I think you'll find a lot of skepticism here for anything that tries to significantly alter markdown. I understand some of the criticism that functions can degrade source readability if overused. Sometimes Turing incompleteness is a virtue. But as far as adding functions to markdown goes, this is probably among the cleanest designs out there.
| iamgioh 42 days ago | parent | next [–]
Quarkdown uses actual functions that return values, they aren't macros. As for source readability, it's possible to define functions in a separate .qd file and import it via .include {myfile.qd}
| runningmike 44 days ago | prev | next [–]
Nice! But in the Comparison should be MyST - https://mystmd.org/ This is the new markdown standard to be….
| dnlzro 44 days ago | parent | next [–]
Or even Typst (not an extension of Markdown, but it has very similar goals and use cases).
| stefanka 44 days ago | parent | prev | next [–]
Myst with Sphinx is great. I miss strong LSP support though—or at least I didn’t manage to get it run in helix. I built my blog with pydata-sphinx-theme and myst
| iamgioh 44 days ago | parent | prev | next [–]
I'm not familiar with it. Feel free to update the table in a PR
| nine_k 44 days ago | prev | next [–]
As an SSG user, I prefer the cleanest markdown as input, and putting all the formatting details into the CSS. E.g. I don't need .abstract, the CSS will format the first paragraph as an abstract without me asking explicitly.OTOH I see this as a way to produce more rich self-contained documents. There's no CSS, but there's a bunch of predefined styling options. I can't help but see the early HTML in it. HTML 1 did not have colors and barely any formatting, comparable to Markdown. HTML 3 had stuff already like
| sieve 43 days ago | prev | next [–]
I having a proofreading project and have been storing structured text using an s-expr serialization of XML. But MD is just so convenient that I decided that starting from scratch and building around the idea made sense. I considered typst for a while but... while it is a good intermediate format if you want to produce PDFs, it is not a good and permanent storage format. Even looked at quarkdown I believe. Same opinion.So I came up with a mini markup language built around directives and fenced blocks. A simple template import allows MD semantics (the stuff I care about) in the project. The idea is that the core is stable. You simply write schema validators for your schema and transformers for the output format. Probably 2-300 lines of python all-in-all for a "book+chapters" schema with an html transformer.I did not fall into the trap of implementing a Turing complete programming language in it like so many other systems. If you want behavior, piggyback on directives and write a python transformer to manipulate the AST.I got interested in something else soon after, so it will probably be a few more months till I have the time and the inclination to finalize and publish everything.
| hirako2000 44 days ago | prev | next [–]
It's nice in that it extends markdown rather than reinventing a different syntax.But the point of markdown, is to simply, markdown. Everything beyond that is deemed superfluous and cumbersome as it would defeat the point. Just write things down.It's the right balance between plain text and latex and the rest.
| spidermonkey23 44 days ago | prev | next [–]
I was looking for something like this, but would love if it had CV formatted doc. I just want something easy to update, but easier to version control Vs docx.
| iamgioh 44 days ago | parent | next [–]
You can achieve any layout you want thanks to the .row, .column and .grid function. A built-in CV template library is planned for the next minor release (https://github.com/iamgio/quarkdown/issues/472)
| FailMore 44 days ago | prev | next [–]
I really like the docs idea. I think it’s great to automatically render the side menu.The prevalence of Markdown from agents made me work on something similar too. My Show HN for a similar cli + web based solution (https://sdocs.dev) was on the /show page a few days ago (https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47777633).Sdocs is cli -> instantly rendered on webI like the fact it doesn’t require you to install anything to get a great experience.Despite being in the browser, the content of SDocs rendered Markdown files remain local to you. SDoc urls contain your markdown document's content in compressed base64 in the url fragment (the bit after the #):
https://sdocs.dev/#md=GzcFAMT...(this is the contents of your document)...
The url fragment is never sent to the server (see https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/URI/Reference/F...: "The fragment is not sent to the server when the URI is requested; it is processed by the client").The sdocs.dev webapp is purely a client side decoding and rendering engine for the content stored in the url fragment.This also means you can share your .md files privately by sharing the url.I’m working on a few new features at the moment:1. Commenting (so you can easily comment on a markdown file and feed that back to your agent)2. A powerful slides functionality
| mblome 43 days ago | prev | next [–]
Coming at this from the AsciiDoc side (we ship a Mac/iPad authoring app there): Quarkdown's syntax design looks clean, especially the user-defined functions. The harder problem in this category, in my experience, isn't necessarily the source language though. I'd say the output pipeline is the tough one.Markdown extensions for cross-refs, admonitions, conditional content, function-based reuse — design-wise, those are tractable. The gap most projects in this space hit is downstream: tagged PDF that conforms to PDF/UA, deterministic builds across environments, hreflang and cross-document linking for multi-language docs sites, incremental rebuilds that don't choke on a 500-page book. PDF/UA matters more in the EU since the European Accessibility Act took effect on 28 June 2025.Curious what the plan looks like there for the four doctypes — paged in particular.
| Igor_Wiwi 43 days ago | prev | next [–]
For my app, I chose a slightly different approach, focusing on readability and easy handling of large Mermaid diagrams. For example, I recently added a full-screen mode with map-like navigation: https://mdview.io/s/97af684b
| niemandhier 43 days ago | prev | next [–]
Cool. The biggest question for me is: Why not LaTex or org-modes?Tex is the superior typesetting, and since the advent of LLMs getting things done in Tex became a breeze.Org-mode is the superior universal markup for, well everything, only downside is the default editor.
| corvad 43 days ago | prev | next [–]
Been using Typst recently and really like it compared to LaTex. Pretty nice way to write things out and kinda like markdown in some ways but completely different in others. In my mind it's like a Markdown LaTex hybrid.
| _the_inflator 44 days ago | prev | next [–]
Quarkdown is a step in the right direction. One step closer to HTML.Tough call. I think Markdown is not an authoring tool at all. In fact if you read through the changelog of GitHub Markdown, you will read a very detailed critique of the shortcomings of MD.It isn’t a specification. This is MD’s biggest weakness as well as strength.## can be a subheading or heading level 2.How about an empty line between paragraphs or after headlines?After reading this I consider MD an idea. A fantastic idea but not a spec.
| dash2 43 days ago | parent | next [–]
Commonmark (https://commonmark.org) is a specification designed to address this issue.
| lynx97 43 days ago | prev | next [–]
If it were simple and easy to remember complex plaintext syntax, we'd all be using LaTeX to do things. Unfortuantely, thats not true. Personally, I even switch away from rst to md. Took me a while to realize, but md is easier to remember / less magic.
| timz 43 days ago | prev | next [–]
Seems amazing, but more demos/examples would be nice, and installation instructions right on the homepage. Web editor would be great. Seems to be written for jvm :( The language spec is amazing and styling is slick.
| iamgioh 42 days ago | parent | next [–]
Thanks! Installation instructions are on the homepage indeed
| enbugger 43 days ago | prev | next [–]
How does it replace Obsidian though? I somehow think the author does not fully understand that knowledge management systems are inherently interactive and need to handle queries like in databases because they are databases.
| slowmovintarget 44 days ago | prev | next [–]
Org.Org is what you're looking for. Org Mode in Emacs, and all the org-* packages that make it so unbelievably useful. LaTeX integration, task management, scheduling, word processing, embedded images (if you must)... Org.
| v3ss0n 43 days ago | prev | next [–]
It breaks the whole idea of Markdown - to be as natural as possible. This is like markdown with CSS Slap in , such a disgrace. It is not simple and as ugly as CSS.
| podviaznikov 44 days ago | prev | next [–]
demos look super clean!I try to support multiple formats on my app: typst, mdx, marp, reveal, latex.i think it should be possible to add support for quark down toohttps://sublimated.com/docs/typst https://sublimated.com/docs/typst/demo/article.typ
| frizlab 44 days ago | prev | next [–]
I don’t think adding things to markdown is a good way to go. Markdown is just a poor language, period. Alternatives like Asciidoc make much more sense IMHO.
| dhruv3006 44 days ago | prev | next [–]
Wow I love this !I think we can have this as a plugin in https://voiden.md/
| iamgioh 44 days ago | parent | next [–]
Thank you!
| schaefer 43 days ago | prev | next [–]
According to the wiki, Quarkdown supports cross-references in the same document, but not cross-references across many documents.
| iamgioh 43 days ago | parent | next [–]
The wiki explains Quarkdown’s concept of subdocuments. A subdocument gets created when linking to another Quarkdown/Markdown file and populates a graph. Subdocuments inherit the linker’s properties but are then independent sandboxes that get compiled independently.A cross-subdocument cross-reference is such a niche use case that I don’t feel like it should break this design choice.
| brockferocious 44 days ago | prev | next [–]
I became a big LaTex fan (from my time studying Physics)... So glad to see people expanding on it. Nice work!
| iamgioh 43 days ago | parent | next [–]
Thanks!
| erlkonig 43 days ago | prev | next [–]
I really hate it when the recommended install method is curl-ing some script directly into a shell, often as root. Especially since it's pretty well known that the remote end can tell whether it's going to a script or a file.Quarkdown's page has this:curl -fsSL https://raw.githubusercontent.com/quarkdown-labs/get-quarkdo... | sudo env "PATH=$PATH" bashAnd… yuck. And that ".sh" is kind of annoying all by itself.
| iamgioh 43 days ago | parent | next [–]
what do you suggest?
| SilentM68 43 days ago | prev | next [–]
Any AppImages planned for the future?
| koliber 43 days ago | prev | next [–]
After looking at it for 1 minute, it seems that this is to markdown what CSS is to HTML.How accurate is that?
| iamgioh 43 days ago | parent | next [–]
I'd rather say Quarkdown is to Markdown what React is to HTML.
| sixhobbits 43 days ago | prev | next [–]
Looks nice, but also the website is really nicely done. How did you make the animations?
| iamgioh 43 days ago | parent | next [–]
Thanks! Dynamic animations are from GSAP
| rambleraptor 43 days ago | root | parent | next [–]
What’s GSAP?
| iamgioh 43 days ago | root | parent | next [–]
Frontend animation library
| karmakaze 43 days ago | prev | next [–]
This could also be a cool export/exchange format for Google Docs and the like.
| katabatic 43 days ago | prev | next [–]
Before you know it we'll have re-invented LaTeX for a new generation.
| groby_b 43 days ago | prev | next [–]
Wait, we created the unholy unity of troff and markdown?Kidding aside, that kind of misses the point of either.
| trashb 43 days ago | parent | next [–]
When reinventing markdown turns into recreating roff.I feel like a lot of people don't know about the power of the roff suites and that it is installed by default on a lot of systems.> Kidding aside, that kind of misses the point of either.I agree, in my view markdown is good because it is simple, if you want to use a proper markup language use roff.
| arkensaw 43 days ago | prev | next [–]
maybe I'm being dense, but why do people keep reinventing markdown to make it more like HTML when HTML exists?
| iamgioh 43 days ago | parent | next [–]
Easier to read, easier to write. On top of that, Quarkdown runs compile-time logic and scripting.
| nfrankel 43 days ago | prev | next [–]
Or just use Asciidoc...
| WalterBright 43 days ago | prev | next [–]
Another markup language that looks like RUNOFF from the 1970s. I used to use RUNOFF for my term papers.
| iamgioh 43 days ago | parent | next [–]
I'll take that as a compliment
| WalterBright 43 days ago | root | parent | next [–]
No problem!
| commenter711 43 days ago | prev | next [–]
Soooo, Typst?
| sputknick 44 days ago | prev | next [–]
The nice thing is that with LLMs using markdown we are getting a nice ecosystem for a universal method for communicating textual information. The negative is that Markdown is starting to look like the https://xkcd.com/927/ cartoon.
| threetonesun 44 days ago | parent | next [–]
The silly part is having n+1 Markdown standards that all end up rendering as HTML anyway. Personally if it's a plain text file sure, basic Markdown is fine, beyond that just give me some kind of rich text editor that stores as HTML and let me do whatever and not have to hand format a Markdown table.
| Aeroi 44 days ago | prev | next [–]
how is it for converting streaming api responses from LLM's?
| iamgioh 44 days ago | parent | next [–]
LLM's aren't too familiar with Quarkdown's extensions and functions yet. But handling base Markdown is definitely doable. Please keep me updated!
| Syzygies 43 days ago | root | parent | next [–]
LLM's are an extension of us. We sometimes have to work to learn something new; so do LLM's. It's all in how we manage that process. Reifying information is the whole ball of wax, what separates different people's success rates using AI. AI is more surfboard than self-driving car; you don't just tell it which way to go.I still can't get AI to code well in Lean 4, but I'm writing a parser for a language that doesn't exist. AI understands the language as well as I do.
| Aeroi 43 days ago | parent | prev | next [–]
why did my question get downvoted twice? I'm looking for markdown renders that can take llm output to beautiful markdown format?
| maxloh 44 days ago | prev [–]
So this is actually competing in the typesetting space, likely with Typst. Both aim to become a simpler alternative to LaTeX without that pain in the ass.I think they are missing an opportunity to fix a poor design decision in Markdown. Instead of bold and italic, it should be bold and italic. That extra asterisk really makes it inconvenient to edit Markdown on a phone or tablet. I hope they fix that in v3.

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